DV with HDR Fallback

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brijazz
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DV with HDR Fallback

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I use {hdr} to append the HDR format to my filenames. I've noticed that files containing DV with HDR fallback are always named as "Dolby Vision" - is there any way to have these named as "Dolby Vision + HDR" or something similar to indicate that an HDR fallback is present?
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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:?: What does the MediaInfo Inspector say for the file at hand?

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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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I use the MediaInfo CLI, which outputs this:

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Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main [email protected]@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 49 min
Bit rate                                 : 55.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
I've truncated the output a bit for the sake of brevity, hope no vital info is missing!
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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:?: Please share the raw MediaInfo table via the Copy to Clipboard button (NOTE: mediainfo summary is useless for our purposes) as seen in the screenshot below:

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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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Here ya go! Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/xEbaTvuE

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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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This one looks promising:

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HDR_Format                       : Dolby Vision / SMPTE ST 2086
HDR_Format/String                : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
HDR_Format_Compatibility         : HDR10 / HDR10

You can check the HDR_Format_Compatibility property for specific values like so:

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{ video.HDR_Format_Compatibility =~ /HDR/ ? ' + HDR' : null }


:?: What does the raw MediaInfo table look like for a file with Dolby Vision but without HDR fallback?
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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That worked, thanks for the assist. Here's the MediaInfo output for a DV-only file: https://pastebin.com/gNuJZvaE
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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Thanks for the additional test case. The HDR_Format_Compatibility property is missing from that file, so we can indeed use HDR_Format_Compatibility for the task at hand, and generate different formats depending on the existence / non-existence of that property:

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HDR_Format                : Dolby Vision
HDR_Format/String         : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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One further question if you don't mind: is there any way to apply

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{ video.HDR_Format_Compatibility =~ /HDR/ ? ' + HDR' : null }
only if Dolby Vision is present?

Files that have HDR10+ (instead of DV) implicitly have HDR fallback so it's not necessary to indicate the presence of the fallback in the filename. Not to mention that it's kind of unsightly haha - filenames for HDR10+ files end up looking like this, with a "+" sign at the end of the HDR10 format name and the "+" sign used to append "HDR" to the end of the filename:
My Show - S01E06 - Episode Title [2160p - HDR10+ + HDR]
Since DV is not present, this would be adequate:
My Show - S01E06 - Episode Title [2160p - HDR10+]
The Pastebin for an HDR10+ file can be found at https://pastebin.com/6i59AqUh
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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You can probably get the behaviour you want like so:

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{ 'Dolby Vision / SMPTE ST 2086' in video.HDR_Format ? 'Dolby Vision + HDR' : hdr }
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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Success! Thanks again.
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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I found out that SMTPE ST isn't always 2086.
Is there a way to look for 'Dolby Vision / SMPTE(and whatever is behind)' ?
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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Yes, but if you want me to write code then I will need a representative variety of HDR_Format sample values to code against.

Maybe like this?

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{ video.HDR_Format =~ /Dolby Vision/ && video.HDR_Format =~ /SMTPE/ ? 'Dolby Vision + HDR' : hdr }
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Re: DV with HDR Fallback

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Thank you it works perfectly.
I modified it like that to work with Plex Meta Manager and his DV+HDR overlay :

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{ video.HDR_Format =~ /Dolby Vision/ && video.HDR_Format =~ /SMPTE/ ? 'DV + HDR10' : hdr }
Image

Changed it after founding a movie with DV and HDR10 but no SMPTE in HDR.Format.

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{video.HDR_Format =~ /Dolby Vision/ && video.HDR_Format_Compatibility =~ /HDR10/ ? 'DV+HDR10' : hdr}
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