[BUG] FileBot 5.1.6 not preserve presets in episodes section

[devildant]

Hi,
the new version no longer keeps the last selected preset when you go via the episodes section see gif:

[rednoah]

Well, technically, the previous behaviour is a bug, since the code kept using the most recently used format by accident rather than on purpose...

If this unintended behaviour (i.e. use the format from the most recently used Preset) is actually useful and actively relied upon, as it seems, then we will consider making it the official intended behaviour in the future.

• hiccup after FileBot_5.1.6_x64.msi installed

  Keep in mind that conceptually there is a format set by your preset and a default format. Some older releases (not sure which revision) incorrectly kept using whichever format was last used:
  * If you select a preset, episode items should be formatted with the format set in the preset.
  * If you drop episode items from Episodes, or via Fetch Data, or any other way that is not clicking on a Preset, then the default format should be used. Notably, the last used preset should not (but did in the past by error) affect subsequent behaviours.
  
  You can do Double-Click <New Names item> -> Edit Format to see which format is being used for the selected item at hand, and change if desired.

• Using specific preset when sending individual eposodes to Rename tab

  You can use Double-Click <New Names> item ➔ Edit Format to edit the default Episode format (as opposed to the Preset-specific format you may have set in the Preset)

[devildant]

Good morning,

it was a very practical bug so, for me it is unusable with the bug corrected, for the series, I have several different presets, the use of the default preset is therefore not useful to me.

a solution would perhaps be to have the choice of preset in episodes sections like that:
send to => rename with presets => [presets 1, presets 2....]

Currently I had to revert to the previous version of filebot

[rednoah]

it was a very practical bug so, for me it is unusable with the bug corrected, for the series, I have several different presets, the use of the default preset is therefore not useful to me.

Makes sense. We'll see about finding a better solution for your use case.


On a somewhat related note, does automatic matching generally not work for you for some reason? Because manual matching via the Episodes tool is typically a last resort and shouldn't be something that you'd need all that often. Most users don't even know manual matching exists. The video gif above also shows automatic matching working for that particular use case.

[devildant]

to answer the question, it's just that I prefer manual for the series, it helps me to see if I have all the episodes for each season..
Let's imagine that one of my seasons has 22 episodes on themoviedb, but that I only have 16, they will be recognized by the automatic scan, but I would not know if I am missing any episodes.

another point, I tend to do seasons by seasons, if I use the automatic scan themoviedb will be queried for each season whereas if I go through the episodes section, themoviedb is only queried once

and last point, when I do several seasons of the same series at the same time, it requires less effort via the episodes section, because I don't need to control the series for each episode because I am sure of be on the right series, I just have to check the numbering

[devildant]

and a last case for the series which suffered the writers' strike a few years ago, which has a numbering shift, for example futurama, the last season is the 12th but for themoviedb it is the 9th.
via the episodes section it's easier to manage

[Kallita]

Thanks for making this into a bug notice.
In response to your question about automatic versus manual matching: I have several (more than 5 probably less than 10) series that I am in need of using the Episodes manual matching. Rifftrax being the big one... mayday, doctor who, ghost hunters are some of the ones that come to mind that I need to manually rename using the Episodes list. They just never match up to the automatic matching. I also have a lot of cartoons that are sometimes posted as single eps when they were originally shown as double eps. and have to go in and manually match , usually to another search engine to find the right ones. Last used is convenient for these situations. But I also understand your thinking in using the default for those situations, and once I realized I could change the default to mimic one of the presets it made it a little bit easier to do the stuff I needed. Not 100% but running at about 99% now.

[rednoah]

Let's imagine that one of my seasons has 22 episodes on themoviedb, but that I only have 16, they will be recognized by the automatic scan, but I would not know if I am missing any episodes.

This check can be part of your custom format:

Format: Select all

{ model.episode.containsAll(episodelist.findAll{ it.e && it.s == s }.episode) ? '' : ' [incomplete]' }

** Holistic formats with the {model} binding

another point, I tend to do seasons by seasons, if I use the automatic scan themoviedb will be queried for each season whereas if I go through the episodes section, themoviedb is only queried once

FileBot will always fetch the entire episode list and cache the entire episode list information for multiple days. You mean well, but FileBot will internally always query all seasons, and then filter the result as needed in a second step.

and last point, when I do several seasons of the same series at the same time, it requires less effort via the episodes section, because I don't need to control the series for each episode because I am sure of be on the right series, I just have to check the numbering

You may prefer to use SHIFT-CLICK <database> to ensure that FileBot is only working with one single specific manually confirmed series.

and a last case for the series which suffered the writers' strike a few years ago, which has a numbering shift, for example futurama, the last season is the 12th but for themoviedb it is the 9th.

Manual Matching and Linear Matching where indeed designed with this kind of use case in mind. Rather cumbersome but I can't think of a better way either.

[devildant]

Thank you for all this precision, I learned a lot about how filebot works

after last problem, I ended up getting into the habit of using manual selection (episodes section)
I find it very practical and comfortable to see everything
hard to change your habits ^^

in any case I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you will have time to find a solution so that the episodes section can use different presets

[rednoah]

in any case I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you will have time to find a solution so that the episodes section can use different presets

Yep. Future versions will only reset the format back to default format if you use Fetch Data ➔ <database> but not if you just copy & paste Episode items.

[devildant]

in any case I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you will have time to find a solution so that the episodes section can use different presets

Yep. Future versions will only reset the format back to default format if you use Fetch Data ➔ <database> but not if you just copy & paste Episode items.

I note ^^ but I really hope to be able to have the choice of presets in episodes => send to => rename with presets => ...

that would be really comfortable :p

[rednoah]

but I really hope to be able to have the choice of presets in episodes => send to => rename with presets => ...

That would make more sense in terms of UI flow. I'll see what I can do about that.

[Kallita]

"but I really hope to be able to have the choice of presets in episodes => send to => rename with presets => ..."

I could live with that.

[devildant]

but I really hope to be able to have the choice of presets in episodes => send to => rename with presets => ...

That would make more sense in terms of UI flow. I'll see what I can do about that.

Hi rednoah,
is there any development regarding this subject in version 5.1.7? (I haven't seen anything in this sense in the release note)

[rednoah]

Yep. If you use Send to ➔ Rename then FileBot will use the format that was set most recently. If you use Fetch Data then FileBot will use the format that is configured as default format.

[devildant]

Yep. If you use Send to ➔ Rename then FileBot will use the format that was set most recently. If you use Fetch Data then FileBot will use the format that is configured as default format.

thx a lot